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Capture the Game

Summary

Score2
Red
3
Blue
MapCloud

Ball-E
Duration3:37
12:00 time limit
StartersMantis ✓
Some Ball 2
Some Ball 8
Some Ball 3
✓ Trituin
✓ Ballb Ross
✓ king Block
vermite=dick
SubstitutesBallb Ross ✓
ballogne
Captures
Ballb Ross ✓1:48
Ballb Ross ✓2:06
0:30✓ Trituin
3:29vermite=dick
3:37✓ Trituin
Typepublic match
Server
Centra

port 8001
Date
Id#869529
Raw data URLhttps://tagpro.eu/data/?match=869529

Scoreboard

Play­erGrabsHoldCap­turesDropsPopsPreventHaveChaseTake­o­versRe­turnsTagsCom­bosBut­tonBlockPow­er-upsPow­erPlayPlus-mi­nusWinScoreRank points
✓ Trituin144°50:242341:000:400:23441300:000:3000220:000:000:403:37+1✓85+22
vermite=dick113°20:421110:310:180:0322500:400:2011020:200:030:003:37+1✓66+21
✓ Ballb Ross195°60:302461:280:580:1434400:000:4200000:000:000:003:37+154+16
✓ Mantis25°80:2908100:530:300:2866600:000:3500000:000:000:003:37−126+10
ballogne7°30:180340:480:360:2233400:000:3700000:000:000:002:490✓23+15
Some Ball 230:2403101:070:370:2733300:000:2000000:000:000:003:37−117
✓ king Block142°60:220660:290:140:0622200:050:4900000:000:000:003:37+1✓17+19
Some Ball 810:090191:010:380:0511100:150:2000000:000:000:003:37−18
Some Ball 310:020110:040:010:0011100:000:0500000:000:000:000:0800
Red181:33216344:302:431:1413141400:151:5200000:000:000:0014:01−1105+26
Blue171:47314172:511:500:5612122500:452:2611240:200:030:4014:16+1✓191+77

Power-up luck

TeamPower-upsG-test
χ²dfp
Spawn luckboth1.33−0.331.33−0.331.33+0.670.4720.8
Collection luckRed000001
Blue1.001.002.00
Total luckRed0000.4720.8
Blue1.33−0.331.33−0.331.33+0.67

Splats

Attacks

GrabHoldOut­comeRe­turnsTagsCom­bosPow­er-upsPow­er
0:27.32✓ Trituin0:02.70Capture00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
3:29.15✓ Trituin0:07.97Capture00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
1:58.03✓ Ballb Ross0:08.35Capture00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
1:38.78✓ Ballb Ross0:09.02Capture00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
3:06.53vermite=dick0:22.37Capture00001010:00.000:02.930:00.00
0:06.15vermite=dick0:19.47Takeover bySome Ball 200000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
1:14.87Some Ball 20:16.42Takeover byballogne00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
1:03.88✓ Trituin0:09.77Return by✓ Ballb Ross01000110:00.000:00.000:06.72
2:46.53✓ king Block0:09.60Takeover by✓ Mantis00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:37.42Some Ball 80:09.33Takeover by✓ Trituin00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
2:37.85ballogne0:08.22Takeover by✓ Mantis00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:46.82✓ Mantis0:07.57Takeover by✓ Trituin00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
2:10.50ballogne0:07.30Takeover bySome Ball 200000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
2:56.13✓ Mantis0:07.30Drop00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
2:17.80Some Ball 20:06.83Drop00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
1:48.60✓ king Block0:06.40Takeover by✓ Mantis00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:57.57✓ Ballb Ross0:06.32Takeover by✓ Trituin00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
2:27.38✓ Mantis0:05.73Takeover by✓ king Block00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:32.42✓ king Block0:05.00Takeover bySome Ball 800000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
2:33.62✓ Ballb Ross0:04.23Takeover byballogne00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:54.38✓ Trituin0:03.18Takeover by✓ Ballb Ross00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
1:34.17✓ Mantis0:03.00Drop00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
1:31.28ballogne0:02.88Takeover by✓ Mantis00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
1:55.00✓ Mantis0:02.50Drop00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:04.07Some Ball 30:02.08Takeover byvermite=dick00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
2:08.73✓ Mantis0:01.77Takeover byballogne00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
3:05.45✓ Ballb Ross0:01.08Takeover byvermite=dick00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:26.33✓ Ballb Ross0:00.80Takeover by✓ Mantis00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:25.62Some Ball 20:00.72Takeover by✓ Ballb Ross00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
2:33.12✓ king Block0:00.50Takeover by✓ Ballb Ross00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
2:46.07✓ Mantis0:00.47Takeover by✓ king Block00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
1:14.43✓ king Block0:00.43Takeover bySome Ball 200000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:03.82✓ king Block0:00.25Takeover bySome Ball 300000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:27.13✓ Mantis0:00.18Takeover by✓ Trituin00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00
0:46.75✓ Trituin0:00.07Takeover by✓ Mantis00000000:00.000:00.000:00.00

Timeline

Time
E­ventsSplat lo­ca­tionsE­ventsSplat lo­ca­tions
0:00.00
match start
Some Ball 2starts vermite=dickstarts
Some Ball 3starts king Block ✓starts
Mantis ✓starts Ballb Ross ✓starts
Some Ball 8starts Trituin ✓starts
0:00.02king Block ✓starts blocking
0:00.58Some Ball 3starts preventingvermite=dickstarts preventing
Mantis ✓starts preventingking Block ✓starts preventing
Some Ball 8starts preventingBallb Ross ✓starts preventing
Trituin ✓starts preventing
0:01.15Some Ball 3starts blocking
0:01.58Ballb Ross ✓stops preventing
0:03.58Trituin ✓stops preventing
0:03.82king Block ✓grabs
0:04.05king Block ✓stops blocking
0:04.07Some Ball 3returnsking Block ✓drops (−0.78, −0.68)
Some Ball 3takeover grabs
0:04.38Ballb Ross ✓pops(+3.15, +14.20)
0:04.58Some Ball 3stops preventingvermite=dickstops preventing
king Block ✓stops preventing
0:05.58Mantis ✓stops preventing
0:05.73Trituin ✓powers up
0:06.15Some Ball 3stops blocking(−3.25, +0.70)
vermite=dickreturns
Some Ball 3drops vermite=dicktakeover grabs
0:08.28Some Ball 3disconnects
0:08.58Some Ball 8stops preventing
0:09.58Some Ball 2starts preventing
0:10.58king Block ✓starts preventing
Ballb Ross ✓starts preventing
0:12.58king Block ✓stops preventing
Ballb Ross ✓stops preventing
0:13.08Mantis ✓pops(−16.88, −9.20)
Trituin ✓tags
0:13.58Some Ball 8starts preventing
0:14.07Some Ball 2pops(−13.75, −6.78)
Trituin ✓tags
0:14.58Some Ball 2stops preventing
0:14.75Ballb Ross ✓starts blocking
0:15.25Mantis ✓pops(−14.73, −6.40)
Trituin ✓tags
0:15.58Some Ball 8stops preventing
0:15.63Some Ball 8pops(−16.98, −7.48)
Trituin ✓tags
0:17.07Some Ball 2pops(−14.15, −8.53)
Trituin ✓tags
0:17.65Some Ball 8pops(−15.00, −8.00)
Trituin ✓tags
0:19.75Ballb Ross ✓stops blocking
0:20.02Some Ball 2pops(−15.70, −5.50)
Trituin ✓tags
0:20.58Mantis ✓starts preventing
0:20.62vermite=dickstarts blocking
0:21.08Mantis ✓starts blocking
0:21.33Some Ball 2starts blocking
0:21.57Trituin ✓starts blocking
0:22.13Ballb Ross ✓starts blocking
0:22.58Some Ball 8starts preventing
0:23.60king Block ✓starts preventing
0:24.20Some Ball 8pops(−16.70, −1.30)
Trituin ✓tags
0:24.60Some Ball 8stops preventing
0:25.60king Block ✓stops preventing
0:25.62Some Ball 2returnsvermite=dickstops blocking(−21.18, −1.30)
Some Ball 2takeover grabs vermite=dickdrops
0:25.73Trituin ✓powers down
0:26.08Mantis ✓stops blocking
0:26.33Some Ball 2stops blocking(−22.60, +0.05)
Ballb Ross ✓returns
Some Ball 2drops Ballb Ross ✓takeover grabs
0:26.57Trituin ✓stops blocking
0:27.13Mantis ✓returnsBallb Ross ✓stops blocking(−21.05, +1.78)
Mantis ✓takeover grabs Ballb Ross ✓drops
0:27.32Mantis ✓drops (−20.23, +0.98)
Trituin ✓returns
Trituin ✓takeover grabs
0:27.60Mantis ✓stops preventing
0:29.60Some Ball 8starts preventing
0:30.02Trituin ✓captures
0:30.65vermite=dickstarts buttoning
0:31.60vermite=dickstarts preventing
0:32.42king Block ✓grabs
king Block ✓starts blocking
0:32.60Mantis ✓starts preventing
0:33.60Mantis ✓stops preventingvermite=dickstops preventing
Some Ball 8stops preventingBallb Ross ✓starts preventing
0:33.62Some Ball 8pops(−10.33, −10.03)
0:35.63Some Ball 2pops(+2.10, +14.20)
0:35.65vermite=dickstops buttoning
0:36.28Ballb Ross ✓switches to Ballb Ross ✓switches from
0:36.60Ballb Ross ✓stops preventing
0:37.42Some Ball 8returnsking Block ✓stops blocking(−15.33, −2.90)
Some Ball 8takeover grabs king Block ✓drops
0:37.47Ballb Ross ✓starts blocking
0:37.60Mantis ✓starts preventing
0:40.60Some Ball 2starts preventing
0:41.60Some Ball 2stops preventing
Ballb Ross ✓starts preventing
0:41.75Some Ball 8starts blocking
0:41.82Trituin ✓starts blocking
0:42.47Ballb Ross ✓stops blocking
0:42.60king Block ✓starts preventing
0:43.60Ballb Ross ✓stops preventingking Block ✓stops preventing
Mantis ✓stops preventing
0:44.60Some Ball 2starts preventing
0:46.75Some Ball 8stops blocking(−1.15, +3.43)
Trituin ✓returns
Some Ball 8drops Trituin ✓takeover grabs
0:46.82Mantis ✓returnsTrituin ✓stops blocking(−1.55, +2.28)
Mantis ✓takeover grabs Trituin ✓drops
0:48.57ballognejoins
0:48.60Some Ball 2stops preventingvermite=dickstarts preventing
0:49.38Mantis ✓starts blocking
0:49.60Some Ball 2starts preventing
0:51.60Some Ball 2stops preventingking Block ✓starts preventing
0:52.10king Block ✓starts blocking
0:52.57Trituin ✓starts blocking
0:52.60king Block ✓stops preventing
Trituin ✓starts preventing
0:53.60Some Ball 8starts preventingTrituin ✓stops preventing
0:54.38Mantis ✓stops blocking(+6.23, +8.33)
Trituin ✓returns
Mantis ✓drops Trituin ✓takeover grabs
0:54.60vermite=dickstops preventing
ballognestarts preventing
0:55.65vermite=dickstarts buttoning
0:56.60Some Ball 8stops preventing
0:57.10king Block ✓stops blocking
0:57.57Ballb Ross ✓returnsTrituin ✓stops blocking(−4.88, +6.08)
Ballb Ross ✓takeover grabs Trituin ✓drops
0:58.88Ballb Ross ✓starts blocking
1:00.65vermite=dickstops buttoning
1:03.88Ballb Ross ✓stops blocking(+17.15, +3.78)
Trituin ✓returns
Ballb Ross ✓drops Trituin ✓takeover grabs
1:05.60Some Ball 2starts preventing
1:06.60Some Ball 8starts preventing
1:06.93Trituin ✓powers up
1:08.13ballognestarts blocking
1:09.62Mantis ✓starts preventing
1:09.87king Block ✓starts blocking
1:10.53Some Ball 8pops(−19.43, −10.43)
1:10.62Some Ball 8stops preventingballognestops preventing
1:10.65vermite=dickstarts buttoning
1:11.62Some Ball 2stops preventing
Ballb Ross ✓starts preventing
Mantis ✓stops preventing
1:13.13ballognestops blocking
1:13.62Ballb Ross ✓stops preventing
1:13.65Ballb Ross ✓returns(−15.33, +3.23)
Trituin ✓tags(−15.98, +3.88)
Ballb Ross ✓popsTrituin ✓drops
1:14.43king Block ✓grabs
1:14.67ballognepops(−14.45, −0.03)
1:14.87Some Ball 2returnsking Block ✓stops blocking(+0.25, −0.28)
Some Ball 2takeover grabs king Block ✓drops
1:15.65vermite=dickstops buttoning
1:16.62Some Ball 8starts preventing
1:19.62Ballb Ross ✓starts preventing
Some Ball 8stops preventing
1:20.62Ballb Ross ✓stops preventingballognestarts preventing
1:20.65vermite=dickstarts buttoning
1:21.62king Block ✓starts preventing
1:21.92Trituin ✓pops(+4.28, +14.25)
1:23.62Some Ball 8starts preventing
1:24.62Mantis ✓starts preventingking Block ✓stops preventing
1:24.80Mantis ✓starts blocking
1:25.65vermite=dickstops buttoning
1:26.28Some Ball 2starts blocking
1:26.62ballognestops preventing
1:26.63vermite=dickstarts blocking
1:26.93Trituin ✓powers down
1:28.58Some Ball 8pops(−14.05, −0.08)
vermite=dicktags
1:28.62Some Ball 8stops preventingking Block ✓starts preventing
Trituin ✓starts preventing
1:29.17ballognestarts blocking
1:29.62Ballb Ross ✓starts blocking
1:29.80Mantis ✓stops blocking
1:30.62king Block ✓stops preventing
1:30.85Some Ball 8starts blocking
1:31.28Some Ball 2stops blocking(−7.38, +8.70)
ballognereturns
Some Ball 2drops ballognetakeover grabs
1:31.62Trituin ✓stops preventing
1:31.63Some Ball 2starts blockingvermite=dickstops blocking
1:32.62Mantis ✓stops preventing
1:34.17Mantis ✓returnsballognestops blocking(−16.58, +5.23)
Mantis ✓takeover grabs ballognedrops
1:34.62Ballb Ross ✓stops blocking
Some Ball 8starts preventing
1:35.62Ballb Ross ✓starts preventing
1:35.85Some Ball 8stops blocking
1:36.63Some Ball 2stops blocking
1:37.17Mantis ✓drops (−21.85, −8.20)
1:37.62Some Ball 2starts preventing
Some Ball 8stops preventing
1:38.62Ballb Ross ✓stops preventing
1:38.78Ballb Ross ✓grabs
1:40.62Some Ball 8starts preventingballognestarts preventing
1:41.62vermite=dickstarts preventing
1:42.62Trituin ✓starts preventing
ballognestops preventing
1:43.62Trituin ✓stops preventing
1:44.62vermite=dickstops preventing
1:45.62Some Ball 2stops preventing
1:46.63Trituin ✓starts preventing
1:47.50Some Ball 8pops(−7.63, −3.28)
1:47.63Some Ball 8stops preventingvermite=dickstarts preventing
1:47.80Ballb Ross ✓captures
1:48.60king Block ✓grabs
1:48.63ballognestarts preventing
1:49.63vermite=dickstops preventing
1:50.00king Block ✓starts blocking
1:50.63Ballb Ross ✓starts preventing
Mantis ✓starts preventing
1:50.65vermite=dickstarts buttoning
1:51.63Ballb Ross ✓stops preventingballognestops preventing
1:53.63Some Ball 8starts preventing
1:54.63Some Ball 2starts preventingTrituin ✓stops preventing
Ballb Ross ✓starts preventing
1:55.00Mantis ✓returnsking Block ✓stops blocking(−13.83, −2.75)
Mantis ✓takeover grabs king Block ✓drops
1:55.33Some Ball 8pops(−12.53, −1.03)
vermite=dicktags
1:55.50Some Ball 2pops(−11.43, −2.03)
vermite=dicktags
1:55.63Some Ball 2stops preventing
Mantis ✓stops preventing
Some Ball 8stops preventing
1:55.65vermite=dickstops buttoning
1:57.50Mantis ✓drops (−19.33, −10.58)
1:57.63Trituin ✓starts preventing
1:58.03Ballb Ross ✓grabs
1:58.63Ballb Ross ✓stops preventing
1:59.63vermite=dickstarts preventing
2:01.63Some Ball 2starts preventingvermite=dickstops preventing
Some Ball 8starts preventing
2:03.63Some Ball 2stops preventing
2:04.63Some Ball 8stops preventing
2:05.50Mantis ✓starts blocking
2:05.63ballognestarts preventing
2:05.98Some Ball 2pops(+13.53, −0.05)
2:06.38Ballb Ross ✓captures
2:08.73Mantis ✓grabs
2:09.13vermite=dickpowers up
2:09.63Ballb Ross ✓starts preventing
2:09.70vermite=dickstarts blocking
2:10.50Mantis ✓stops blocking(+1.38, −7.90)
ballognereturns
Mantis ✓drops ballognetakeover grabs
2:10.63ballognestops preventing
2:12.63Some Ball 2starts preventing
2:12.80ballognestarts blocking
2:13.63Some Ball 2stops preventing
2:13.73Ballb Ross ✓starts blocking
2:14.63Trituin ✓stops preventing
2:14.70vermite=dickstops blocking
2:15.63Some Ball 2starts preventingking Block ✓starts preventing
2:16.63king Block ✓stops preventing
2:16.87Mantis ✓starts blocking
2:17.80Some Ball 2returnsballognestops blocking(−17.60, +2.50)
Some Ball 2takeover grabs ballognedrops
2:18.63Some Ball 2stops preventing
2:20.63Some Ball 8starts preventing
2:20.92Ballb Ross ✓stops blocking
2:21.87Mantis ✓stops blocking
2:22.63Mantis ✓starts preventing
2:24.63Some Ball 2drops (+7.20, −4.05)
vermite=dickstarts preventing
Mantis ✓stops preventingking Block ✓starts preventing
Some Ball 8stops preventingballognestarts preventing
2:25.63Trituin ✓starts preventing
2:27.20Some Ball 8starts blocking
2:27.38Mantis ✓grabs
2:27.63vermite=dickstops preventing
2:28.12Mantis ✓starts blocking
2:28.62king Block ✓starts blocking
2:29.13vermite=dickpowers down
2:29.63Trituin ✓stops preventing
ballognestops preventing
2:30.63Some Ball 2starts preventingking Block ✓stops preventing
2:31.47Some Ball 2starts blocking
2:32.20Some Ball 8stops blocking
2:32.63Trituin ✓starts preventing
2:32.85Ballb Ross ✓starts blocking
2:33.12Mantis ✓stops blocking(+0.45, +1.38)
king Block ✓returns
Mantis ✓drops king Block ✓takeover grabs
2:33.62Ballb Ross ✓returnsking Block ✓stops blocking(+0.88, −0.88)
Ballb Ross ✓takeover grabs king Block ✓drops
2:33.63Some Ball 2stops preventing
Ballb Ross ✓stops preventing
Some Ball 8starts preventing
2:35.25king Block ✓starts blocking
2:35.63Some Ball 8stops preventing
2:36.63ballognestarts preventing
2:36.67Some Ball 2stops blocking
2:37.85Ballb Ross ✓stops blocking(+12.55, +1.20)
ballognereturns
Ballb Ross ✓drops ballognetakeover grabs
2:37.88Trituin ✓starts blocking
2:38.63ballognestops preventing
2:39.63Mantis ✓starts preventingking Block ✓starts preventing
2:40.25king Block ✓stops blocking
2:40.63Mantis ✓stops preventingking Block ✓stops preventing
2:40.65vermite=dickstarts buttoning
2:41.07ballognestarts blocking
2:41.53Mantis ✓starts blocking
2:42.65Trituin ✓stops preventing
2:42.88Trituin ✓stops blocking
2:44.63Ballb Ross ✓starts preventing
2:44.70Trituin ✓starts blocking
2:46.07Mantis ✓returnsballognestops blocking(−11.38, +3.13)
Mantis ✓takeover grabs ballognedrops
2:46.53Mantis ✓stops blocking(−10.30, −2.65)
king Block ✓returns
Mantis ✓drops king Block ✓takeover grabs
2:46.65Some Ball 8starts preventing
2:47.65Some Ball 2starts preventing
2:49.70Trituin ✓stops blocking
2:50.55Trituin ✓starts blocking
2:50.65Some Ball 8stops preventing
2:51.13king Block ✓starts blocking
2:51.65Some Ball 2stops preventing
2:52.65ballognestarts preventing
2:53.65Some Ball 2starts preventing
2:53.75Some Ball 8starts blocking
2:54.65Mantis ✓starts preventing
2:55.55Trituin ✓stops blocking
2:55.65vermite=dickstops buttoning
ballognestops preventing
2:56.13Mantis ✓returnsking Block ✓stops blocking(−6.85, +0.23)
Mantis ✓takeover grabs king Block ✓drops
2:56.65Mantis ✓stops preventing
2:58.75Some Ball 8stops blocking
3:00.65Some Ball 2stops preventingvermite=dickstarts preventing
Trituin ✓starts preventing
3:01.53Ballb Ross ✓starts blocking
3:02.65king Block ✓starts preventing
3:03.38king Block ✓starts blocking
3:03.43Mantis ✓drops (+14.18, −0.03)
3:05.13ballognestarts blocking
3:05.45Ballb Ross ✓grabs
3:05.65Ballb Ross ✓stops preventing
3:06.53Ballb Ross ✓stops blocking(+3.60, −2.45)
vermite=dickreturns
Ballb Ross ✓drops vermite=dicktakeover grabs
3:06.65vermite=dickstops preventing
ballognestarts preventing
3:08.38king Block ✓stops blocking
3:08.65king Block ✓stops preventing
ballognestops preventing
3:09.65Some Ball 2starts preventing
Mantis ✓starts preventing
Some Ball 8starts preventing
3:10.65Trituin ✓stops preventing
3:10.67king Block ✓starts buttoning
3:12.05ballognestops blocking
3:12.17vermite=dickstarts blocking
3:12.65Ballb Ross ✓starts preventing
Some Ball 8stops preventing
3:14.23vermite=dickpowers up
3:14.58ballognestarts blocking
3:14.65Some Ball 2stops preventing
3:15.67king Block ✓stops buttoning
3:16.65Mantis ✓stops preventing
3:17.17vermite=dickpowers down
vermite=dickstops blocking
3:17.65Some Ball 8starts preventing
3:18.65Some Ball 2starts preventingTrituin ✓starts preventing
3:19.58ballognestops blocking
3:19.65Some Ball 2stops preventing
Some Ball 8stops preventing
3:20.65ballognestarts preventing
3:20.68Some Ball 8starts buttoning
3:21.65Trituin ✓stops preventing
3:22.65Some Ball 2starts preventing
Mantis ✓starts preventing
3:23.67king Block ✓starts blocking
3:24.65ballognestops preventing
3:26.58ballognestarts blocking
3:26.65Mantis ✓stops preventing
3:28.67king Block ✓stops blocking
3:28.90vermite=dickcaptures
3:29.15Trituin ✓grabs
3:29.65Mantis ✓starts preventing
3:31.58ballognestops blocking
3:31.65vermite=dickstarts preventing
3:32.65Mantis ✓stops preventing
3:34.65vermite=dickstops preventing
3:35.68Some Ball 8stops buttoning
3:36.05Some Ball 2pops(−13.98, −1.70)
ballognetags
3:36.65Some Ball 2stops preventing
Ballb Ross ✓stops preventing
3:37.12Trituin ✓captures
3:37.15
match end
Some Ball 2stops vermite=dickwins
Ballb Ross ✓stops king Block ✓wins
Mantis ✓stops Trituin ✓wins
Some Ball 8stops ballognewins